Each week at SOF, we get together in a small conference room to talk about the upcoming production schedule and other mundane matters, and for the last 15 minutes or so we toss around potential future topics for shows. A few months ago, I tossed out a vague idea for a show about endangered languages. This weekend that vague idea becomes a reality as our show “Sustaining Language, Sustaining Meaning.”

Coming up with a good idea for a show is the easy part. What’s hard is finding the right person to speak on that topic. In this case, Krista wanted to find someone who was trying to save the language of his or her own people, who could also speak about how the loss of that language could result in the loss of cultural and spiritual practices. But there are thousands of endangered languages around the world. Where to start?

I went down several blind alleys — contacting the Living Tongues Institute, doing Nexis searches, e-mailing linguists — before I made the lucky decision to contact the novelist David Treuer. I was familiar with his work, I knew he was Ojibwe and that he had a background in anthropology, so I thought he might know someone who was working on a language revitalization project. He wrote back to my e-mail the next day.

You’ve come to the right place! I just published an article in the LA Times about that very subject. In addition to writing and teaching I am involved (with a group of others) in efforts to preserve and protect the Ojibwe language. Our most recent effort is research (recording, translating) aimed at creating the very first Ojibwe grammar book; work which runs parallel to spiritual and ceremonial work.

Suddenly, this huge, unwieldy topic of endangered languages had acquired a specific language — Ojibwe — and on the day Krista interviewed him, David Treuer helped bring into focus the specific people engaged in trying to save that language. My favorite moment in that interview was the story David tells of interviewing the Ojibwe elder Eugene Stillday, who recounted a childhood moment of sitting in his house when his entire family was sick with influenza, and the only thing that kept him from freaking out was staring at the flickering light in the stove. To me, that light in the stove seemed like a metaphor for the language itself. The light helped keep Eugene Stillday calm, and the language helped keep the memory of that day alive.

That story became even more real when David Treuer’s brother, Anton, sent us the actual recording of Eugene Stillday telling the story in Ojibwe. We wanted more recordings of Ojibwe speakers, but Anton Treuer was leaving town, so David suggested I check with his friend Keller Paap, an Ojibwe immersion school teacher in Wisconsin.

Unfortunately, it was Keller’s last week of school before summer, which is always chaotic for a teacher. He said he would try to find some recordings, but it took him a little while to dig through what he had. As our deadline for finishing the show crept closer and closer, I kept checking my inbox. Then, just in time, Keller sent me his recordings, and they were magic. We used the sound of him speaking Ojibwe to his three-year-old son at the top of the show, and we closed the show with the recording of him singing an Ojibwe song he wrote with his students.

It was amazing to finally hear all those pieces fit together. To me this is what radio is all about: the marriage of words and sounds that go beyond words. David Treuer has some profound things about the power of language to keep culture alive, but hearing Keller Paap literally passing that language onto his son and the enthusiasm of his students singing in Ojibwe, that just makes the whole thing real.

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Thank you very much for introducing this particular "thread"; the question of how shows "emerge" has been on my mind recently.

Recently the "Emergent Church"/"Emerging Church" movement has attracted the attention of the Lutheran rank-and-file, albeit with (IMHO) a fairly superficial treatment in The Lutheran. A bit of research shows that the Emergent Church movement has existed globally for at least 20 years, originating in the UK; more interesting is how controversial Evangelicals and fundamentalists find this movement. Reading only The Lutheran. one might think this movement is about guitar services and "conversations," but reading and listening to evangelical leaders (pastors, seminarians, etc) one sees that this movement is much more threatening!

So here's my suggestion: consider doing a show on The Faith of the Postmodern. I'm not a theologian so I can't provide much more advice, but the thesis is that "postmoderns" of all backgrounds are questioning everything about their faith traditions. This is related to your (wonderful) show on "The New Monastics" but is not the same.

Thank you very much for your amazing and wonderful show; I have nearly very episode on my iPod and every show gets multiple listens.

Having worked here for only six months, it's been fascinating for me to see how shows emerge from that first whiff of curiosity about some subject. But as I said, the hard part is finding a specific voice on that subject. And for us, that right voice usually has to be someone who can speak from personal experience, not just from their knowledge. So, can you think of anyone who could speak both knowledgeably and personally on this topic?

"Vanishing Voices: The Extinction of the World's Languages" (Oxford, 2000) is one of the most compelling nonfiction books I've read in the past 10 years.

Thanks for the recommendation. I love reading engaging books about languages. The last one I read was John McWhorter's "Tower of Babel". Can't wait to pick this one up.

I have an idea for a show to put out there - how about one on yoga nidra - and you could interview Richard Miller, Clinical Psychologist and yoga teacher. They teach his 'iRest', which is a version of yoga nidra, at the Walter Reed Army Hospital in DC. I'll be interning there this fall. Just thought it would be great to hear something on yoga!