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I'm a professional musician with a strong interest in neuroscience, so many of Krista Tippett's shows are right up my alley, since she obviously digs this subject area. Regarding Steve Jobs and his personality… It is clear that most leader types (and this includes "stars" in the world of entertainment, music, art, etc.) have immense egos. The huge ego is a necessity for the leader to be a leader, if you know what I mean. The strong ego often comes along with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which many, many of these people have in spades. (I have certainly seen this among many musician colleagues over the years.) If you have studied this disorder you know that the person is basically a "bulldozer". It is unfortunate, but as I said, it sort of comes with the territory!