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Thank you so much for your wonderful conversation with Jacob Needleman this morning. As one who is very frustrated with the political polarization in our country, I wish everyone could hear Prof. Needleman's take on the beauty of the American system, warts and all. I love that he includes Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglas, and Walt Whitman in the 'founding fathers,' because they did truly shape the heart of American democracy just as Washington, Jefferson, Adams, and others did. I must say that the discussion renewed my sense of patriotism and reminded me to focus on the deeper meaning of why so many people around the world aspire to become Americans. The notion of 'well being' that many here take for granted is a real luxury in many parts of the world. Thanks you again for the thought-provoking conversation. Keep up the good work. I love your show, it's my alternative to church!