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Hearing Terry and Krista talk about the existential reality of the west after having lived for a time in Tucson, Arizona, ridden a bicycle in the desert and almost run out of water, climbed a canyon wall and almost fell, and knowing that many of the people who live there now are of the same mind as those who assured Terry, her family, and neighbors that the above ground nuclear test range upwind was harmless causes me to feel pure desperation. Somehow the conversation has to draw the parallel between the clear and present danger of radioactive fallout and the clear and present danger of climate change.