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I'm eager to listen and possibly view the interview. I understood the way the gift was explained and it resonates especially because of the pathological attachment we, in our society, are developing with regard to fame and celebrityhood. Ultimately, what we are becoming committed to is Self. Self in a way that eats at us and self destructs. Our sense of relating, our spirituality and our goodness gets warped into a consuming entity that is totally foreign to Nature. This insatiable urge to gossip and exposure limits our Evolution, our Growth... Learning from humble and nature loving people perhaps will awaken some of us from this lethargy of consumption.