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You know, my own experience really affirms Holt's ideas--as if he needed my affirmation!--as well as Levin's. When I was listening to the Levin show, I was reminded of my first real epiphanal experience. It occurred while I was an undergraduate physics major studying quantum mechanics, and specifically the tensor products of Hilbert spaces. The moment the notoriously difficult concept became clear to me, I had the experience of suddenly being aware of the deep symmetry of the cosmos. It was like seeing God's signature on the universe.