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Fascinating interview that I want to listen to more than once. One thing I did not hear in Mr. Atran's vocabulary was "corporate economics." He is astute on political "buggy whips" and modes of thought, but I would ask him how the increasingly interconnected world that excites him will overcome large interests that wish to bend the technology to their profit, and that view all social media as modes of marketing to a broader consumer base desiring the same old things, rather than to a deeper matrix of thought and vision of the new.