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Oh, I'd like to do the interview again, so that I could be even clearer and more concise about the point of all of this work...which is in making everyday a "black belt test day" ---sort of the way you would live if you knew everyday was THE day. It's also based on the concept that SELF DEFENSE can no longer be defined as protection from physical attack --as we really need self-defense from mediocrity, lack of vision, disconnection, and "stinking thinking." I'm really proud of the martial arts teachers in the UBBT for stepping up to the plate and trying to walk the talk. And come to think of it, we're still working on "what is the walk?" !