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This was a fascinating podcast - I'm really interesting in listening. Though I disagree with Hempton's illusive definition of silence. He tends to define it as it works for him. His definition isn't about silence, but about sounds that work for him - albeit nice sounds! (not man made). A person who for the past several years really has been studying and writing about and performing "listening" and who understands that some spaces that are less noisy than others (none are silent) - is Pauline Oliveros and the Deep Listening Institute that she founded. Fascinating stuff - I recommend her and the institute to any person who is interested in "Deep Listening." I think her take on listening makes more sense, or at least is less biased than Hempton's view. See: (I also think Pauline would be an interesting interview for Krista on the show "On Being."