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I enjoyed the conversation with David Sloan Wilson - even through the muddy metaphors linking Darwin evolution (natural selection) to other forms of evolution (gradual development). Next time somebody does this, please try to clarify because we have enough confusion over mixing definitions of evolution in this country.

Also, please, when anybody declares "science worships truth", call them on it. Science isn't about truth, it is about discovering rules that allow one to make accurate predictions or assessments. The scientist I know generally just want to discover a rule valuable to other scientists or engineers or the population at large (scientists that are cited more tend to be regarded higher than scientists that are cited less). I will grant that many scientists also like to think they are pursuing truth but that doesn't matter to science as a whole - science only cares about the usefulness of a discovery, not its truthfulness.