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Thanks for posting this link. As a die-hard atheist who is deeply distrustful of evangelical Christianity, I listened with at first disbelief and then growing wonder and hope at this conversation, hope that FOTF might actually be doing something useful in the world instead of dividing and conquering. Clearly, my hopes were in vain. Maybe Mr. Daly and his ilk will walk the walk someday, but I won't hold my breath.