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"People don't read what you write, they read what they think what you are saying".

"We don't see the world as it is, we see it as we are"

I am not what I think I am
I am not what you think I am
I am what I think you think I am

Well, I made you take time to look at what I saw and when you took time to really notice my flower you hung all your own associations with flowers as if I think and see what you think and see of the flower - and I don't. ~Georgia O'Keefe 1960

An artist cannot and does not prepare for a certain response. He does not consider the response but simply follows his inspiration. Works of art are not purposely conceived. The response depends on the condition of the observer. ~Agnes Martin

Conversation at its best is an art. You guys were trying to get Apollo and Dionysus to dance together...and that ain't easy. I admire the effort.

What I find missing in conversations like this is the reptilian factor. The conversations are carried on as if the prefrontal cortex (the conscious self) rules the unconscious self. And so I am sure many people listen to such conversations thinking we can think our way out of this situation. Sex falls right after food and just before plunder on the habit scale. The elephant in the room is the population explosion.

That tirade behind me - I deeply respect the attitude of your conversation. Ms Kissling, I loved your quotes and hope the others make a connection. We all live an illusion. That is a humbling statement and we all need humility.