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Unfortunately, he dismisses as childish and meaningless the most important question of all, the question of mystics, poets, and the program On Being: "why?" I was enthralled listening to the buildup to the spiritual aspect of the discussion....and disappointed to find there's nothing there. Not even dark energy. I much prefer the universe to the empty void that the last minute of this show revealed in him. And I think Krista did a fantastic job of removing, brick by brick, the curtan wall he had erected to try and hide this....just enough for us to see there's nothing there. He is proof that we desperately need the poets and mystics like Heschel...and Krista Tippet.