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With help from typically incisive Krista Tippett questioning, Zolle has done an excellent job of making a complex concept relevant and accessible. Another thoughtful commentator on resilience is Limits to Growth (and successor volumes) co-author Dennis Meadows, winner of the Japan for Sustainability prize and the Club of Rome Lifetime Achievement Award. My recent co-authored article, in the September issue of Solutions Journal, "The Improbable Resilience of Singapore" might also be of interest.