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Here's what is wrong with so-called "middle of the road" thiners as this gentleman claims to be. Nobody learns anything from your equivocation concerning factual information. The idea that the entire discussion is dominated by "creationists" on the one hand and a "screaming Richard Dawkins" on the other is absurd. Science is basd on facts, religion is based on indoctirnation. They two do not overlap. By the way, would you be so good as produce the videos of Richard Dawkins screaming? I have not seen them. I think this is your fabrication in order to present yourself as a great thinker.