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I remember sitting at work scanning. I have an extremely boring job, and it struck me that I could be doing something productive with my mind, so I plugged in my headphones and started listening to The Soul in Depression. At the time, I was struggling with depression myself. And the further I got into the podcast, the harder it was for me not to cry because everything about it seemed so right, and suddenly it became clear that depression could be beautiful, but that didn't give me license to wallow in it. That particular interview was honestly a changing point in my life.