Exclusive Audio of Jelle de Boer

In the radio program, Jelle de Boer discusses the animistic belief systems that attribute such disasters to the movement of a great sea animal or fish. Here de Boer expands on his thought that such belief systems may actually be preferable to those that attribute natural disasters to a wrathful deity.

Jelle de Boer also discusses the value of a large, ecological perspective, that sees the ecological necessity of some natural disasters such as volcanoes. Acknowledging the terrible human suffering, de Boer also discusses the value of volcanic eruptions.

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is Harold T. Stearns Professor Emeritus of Earth Science at Wesleyan University and author of Earthquakes in Human History.

is professor of biology at Washington University in St. Louis and author of The Sacred Depths of Nature.